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WoW Forever Developer Podcast: Dungeon XP, Dual Spec, and New Dungeons

TL;DR: The latest developer discussion covers a reported 20% increase to dungeon kill XP, more class and racial tuning, and the thinking behind Forever’s new dungeons. Dual Spec remains planned for level 40, with level 30 discussed as a possibility. Summoning stones aren’t planned to summon players, and raid preparation will still include consumables.

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Video: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Source date: 2026-10-08. CFH publication date: 2026-10-08.

Official discussionWorld of Warcraft · Official changesBlizzard Entertainment

Source notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript.
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24310653/check-out-episode-3-of-the-wow-forever-podcast · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown

What matters for leveling

The team wants dungeons to be worth repeating without making them the only sensible way to level. The discussion describes a 20% increase to dungeon kill XP—not a blanket 20% bonus to all XP. That change is announced. This article does not treat it as live, because no effective-date patch note was found.

Aggrend later posted that a grouping bug was also being fixed: kill XP had been awarded from the highest-level player in the party. Combined with the 20% kill-XP increase, the stated goal is to make dungeon XP feel better without making dungeon grinding the best way to level.

For players choosing between quests and dungeon runs, travel, group formation, wipes, and quest rewards still affect the total pace.

Dungeon XP discussion — 11:06

Official discussionWorld of Warcraft · Official changesAggrend (World of Warcraft Forums)

Source notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/the-wow-forever-podcast-episode-3-dive-into-dungeons-with-devs-ft-hammerdancegaming/2376010 · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · Aggrend · game version/build unknown · Forum follow-up the same day as Episode 3. Describes a 20% increase to dungeon kill XP plus a grouping XP bug fix. No effective-date patch note was found, so CFH does not treat this as already live.

Class and racial balancing is also ongoing. Orc and Troll actives and weapon-skill bonuses were discussed as areas being reviewed. That is a reason to watch upcoming changes, rather than assume today’s race rankings are final.

Class and racial tuning — 1:42

Official discussionWorld of Warcraft

Source notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript.

Dual Spec and getting to dungeons

Dual Spec is planned for level 40. Level 30 came up as a possibility, but should not be treated as a confirmed unlock.

Dual Spec — 45:23

Official discussionWorld of Warcraft · Official changesBlizzard Entertainment

Source notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript.
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24301515/world-of-warcraft-forever-class-deep-dives-hunter-and-druid · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-09-30 · game version/build unknown

The discussion also rules out functioning summoning stones. Traveling to the entrance remains part of organizing a run, including the risks of crossing hostile territory.

Summoning stones — 51:38

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Source notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript.

New places to explore

The dungeon discussion highlights several different experiences. Names below follow Blizzard’s official What’s Next recap, which corrects informal spellings from the conversation.

  • Ruins of Lordaeron: branching routes and hidden encounters. Dungeon navigation — 18:28
  • Hall of Thanes: an Ironforge dungeon with deliberately difficult access for Horde players. 18:28
  • Excavation Site: a smaller Wetlands adventure above Whelgar’s Excavation, with obscured sightlines and dangerous raptors. 18:28
  • City of Dalaran: a dense dungeon with a shared sewer entrance. Enemy immunities — 37:06
  • Blackmaw Hold: a large, vertical endgame dungeon in Azshara. 18:28

Blizzard’s official preview also lists Krol’dok Stronghold and the Shaper’s Terrace, plus the Drowned City and Alcaz Prison. Barrow Deeps belongs in the raid lineup: it is planned as a maximum-level 10-player challenge. Hyjal Summit is listed separately as a 20-player raid.

Official changesBlizzard Entertainment · Official discussionWorld of Warcraft

Source notes

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24303862/world-of-warcraft-forever-whats-next-panel-recap · retrieved 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · Used for dungeon names and raid classification: Blackmaw Hold, Krol’dok Stronghold, and Barrow Deeps as a maximum-level 10-player raid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript.

Expect discovery and preparation

The discussion favors exploration over dungeon journals and maps. Enemy types should matter too: immunities can require players to change abilities instead of repeating one rotation.

Dungeon navigation — 18:28
Enemy immunities — 37:06

Official discussionWorld of Warcraft

Source notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript.

For raids, the discussion says world buffs will not be allowed inside, while consumables remain part of preparation. The stated goal is to preserve that preparation without making the cost demand excessive farming.

World buffs and consumables — 57:28

Official discussionWorld of Warcraft

Source notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript.

Source note

This page is a timestamped summary checked against the YouTube listing, auto-generated captions, Blizzard’s Episode 3 announcement, Aggrend’s same-day forum note, and the official What’s Next recap. It is not a verbatim transcript. CFH did not produce this from a live viewing of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOWAf06YPg · retrieved 2026-10-08 · published 2026-10-08 · game version/build unknown · YouTube listing title: Dive into Dungeons with Devs ft. @hammerdancegaming | Episode 3 - The WoW: Forever Podcast. Channel: World of Warcraft. Claims were checked against listing metadata, auto-generated captions, and Blizzard recaps. This is not a verbatim transcript. · evidence: Official discussion

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